Post by Jodysephus on Oct 13, 2015 11:40:13 GMT
What is Elijah to say when asked "show us, if your a real prophet". Sure the prophecies do come about just as he suggests, but shouldn't the Bible also "confirm" him in many ways? (KJV stressed) Also have you ever entertained the possibility that even he might need something definite to sooth even his own concerns regarding the matter? A few verses might help but even that wouldn't really be enough because it could still reflect thousands of possible potentials. Could it be that certain verses were actually placed in the Bible itself to confirm himself, plus after the said event, HE PROVES THE BIBLE TO THE WORLD! The Father has shown him the Peaceful Valley among the Mountains in which many of you will come, and is that Candlestick that will lead you there, and from there we will all sing Praises, Honor, Power, Glory and Might to the King who now sitteth on His Throne, the Great "I Am", Jesus Christ, Yeshua our Lord and Savior.
How is it even possible that the whole Church body is still deceived if he's supposed to have arrived "before" the Destruction like Mal ch 4 says he would? See the Oxymoron that's clearly taking place here? This is history repeating itself all over again and even with the prophets because the people have become Drunken by the false ones who were never "sent" to you in the first place. (saying this with all humbleness and humility) Ask them were they really Sent from God or are they just sending themselves? While your at it ask them how much of that what they teach was borrowed from their neighbor? Doesn't God strictly forbid us doing such things? Yet they do it all the time
Could all these verses below actually be referring to the life and plight of the prophet all over again, and could that be the reason for their insertions? If this truly is the case, then i know this individual on a very personal basis :-)
Jer 1:9-10 Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. 10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
Jer 1:18 For, behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city, and an iron pillar, and brasen walls against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land. 19 And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the Lord, to deliver thee.
Jer 5:5 Run ye to and fro through the streets of Jerusalem, and see now, and know, and seek in the broad places thereof, if ye can find a man, if there be any that executeth judgment, that seeketh the truth; and I will pardon it. 2 And though they say, The Lord liveth; surely they swear falsely. 26 As the thief is ashamed when he is found, so is the house of Israel ashamed; they, their kings, their princes, and their priests, and their prophets.
Jer 5:3 O Lord, are not thine eyes upon the truth? thou hast stricken them, but they have not grieved; thou hast consumed them, but they have refused to receive correction. Jer 5:13 And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.
Jer 5:14 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.
Jer 5:20 Declare this in the house of Jacob, and publish it in Judah, saying, 21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:
Jer 5:30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
Jer 6:10 To whom shall I speak, and give warning, that they may hear? behold, their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot hearken: behold, the word of the Lord is unto them a reproach; they have no delight in it.
Jer 6:13 For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
Jer 6:17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.
Jer 6:27 I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way.
Jer 7:13 And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the Lord, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not;
Jer 8:21 For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken hold on me.
Jer 9:1-2 Oh that my head were waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people! 2 Oh that I had in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men; that I might leave my people, and go from them! for they be all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous men.
Jer 9:6 Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the Lord.
Jer 9:12 Who is the wise man, that may understand this? and who is he to whom the mouth of the Lord hath spoken, that he may declare it, for what the land perisheth and is burned up like a wilderness, that none passeth through?
Jer 11:11 Therefore I am full of the fury of the Lord; I am weary with holding in:
Jer 12:3 But thou, O Lord, knowest me: thou hast seen me, and tried mine heart toward thee:
Jer 13: 12 Therefore thou shalt speak unto them this word; Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Every bottle shall be filled with wine: and they shall say unto thee, Do we not certainly know that every bottle shall be filled with wine? 13 Then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will fill all the inhabitants of this land, even the kings that sit upon David's throne, and the priests, and the prophets, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, with drunkenness.
Jer 14:14 Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. 15 Therefore thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.
Jer 15:10 Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; yet every one of them doth curse me. 11 The Lord said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction.
Jer 15:15 O Lord, thou knowest: remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke. 16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts. 17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation. 18 Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, which refuseth to be healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail? 19 Therefore thus saith the Lord, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them. 20 And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brasen wall: and they shall fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the Lord. 21 And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem thee out of the hand of the terrible.
Jer 16:2 Thou shalt not take thee a wife..
Jer 17:14 Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise. 15 Behold, they say unto me, Where is the word of the Lord? let it come now. 16 As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right before thee. 17 Be not a terror unto me: thou art my hope in the day of evil.
Jer 18:18 Then said they, Come and let us devise devices against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, and let us smite him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words.
Jer 18:15 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon this city and upon all her towns all the evil that I have pronounced against it, because they have hardened their necks, that they might not hear my words.
Jer 20:11 But the Lord is with me as a mighty terrible one: therefore my persecutors shall stumble, and they shall not prevail: they shall be greatly ashamed; for they shall not prosper: their everlasting confusion shall never be forgotten.
Jer 20:14 Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed. 15 Cursed be the man who brought tidings to my father, saying, A man child is born unto thee; making him very glad. 16 And let that man be as the cities which the Lord overthrew, and repented not: and let him hear the cry in the morning, and the shouting at noontide; 17 Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb to be always great with me. 18 Wherefore came I forth out of the womb to see labour and sorrow, that my days should be consumed with shame?
Jer 9:9 Mine heart within me is broken because of the prophets; all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome, because of the Lord, and because of the words of his holiness.
Jer 23:11 For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the Lord.
Jer 12:15 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets; Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land. 16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
Jer 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
Jer 23:26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the Lord; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? 30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.
Jer 23:31 Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
Jer 23:36 And the burden of the Lord shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God. 37 Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the Lord answered thee? and, What hath the Lord spoken?
Jer 25:3 the word of the Lord hath come unto me, and I have spoken unto you, rising early and speaking; but ye have not hearkened.
Jer 28:9 The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the Lord hath truly sent him.
Jer 29:8 For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed. 9 For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the Lord.
Jer 29:19 Because they have not hearkened to my words, saith the Lord, which I sent unto them by my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them; but ye would not hear, saith the Lord.
Jer 30:16 Therefore all they that devour thee shall be devoured; and all thine adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity; and they that spoil thee shall be a spoil, and all that prey upon thee will I give for a prey.
Jer 30:21 And their nobles shall be of themselves, and their governor shall proceed from the midst of them; and I will cause him to draw near, and he shall approach unto me: for who is this that engaged his heart to approach unto me? saith the Lord.
Jer 33:33 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah the second time, while he was yet shut up in the court of the prison, saying, 2 Thus saith the Lord the maker thereof, the Lord that formed it, to establish it; the Lord is his name; 3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
...and that's just the first 33 verses of Jeremiah, wait till you see what Isaiah has to say!
And also the Voice in the midst of the four Beasts in Rev 6:6 "And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."
Extra: There's much speculation concerning the two witnesses of Rev ch 11 as to who they might be, and all eyes are peeled right now because we know according to Mal 4:5 God will send Elijah the Prophet "before" the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.He will be to all of Israel the immovable Iron pillar, and will be the fenced Brasen wall and a place of refuge in man's final hour. He, along with his companion will be getting the Bride ready to meet her Groom according to Rev 12:6,14.Those verses are repeating the time of Rev ch 11 and 6. There are many prophecies that validates him, but only after he's been recognized for his prophetic understandings after the prophesied event has already taken place. He speaks the truth prior to the event, but it never is believed because of it's complexity, and nobody would consider anything new because of their puffed up heads. He will also be rising up early in the years and setting up a Standard where others who teach the prophetic word would have had the same opportunity as he to learn the whole truth, but nobody would just like in the days of Elijah the Tishbite.
The Great Earthquake precedes the Mystery Babylon prophecy of Rev 17:5. The Souls under the Alter in Rev 6:9 are those also in Rev 11:1 and they are one of the two Olive trees, whereas Rev 11:2 is referring to the US being the Gentile Nation who puts our Military Garrison in and around Jerusalem as a means of "protecting" it. (also see Dan 11:45, Matt 24:15 and Luke 21:20.) Then the two Witnesses are set apart from the two Olive tress which are the 12 original tribes of Israel scattered around the world, and the "Gentile" Christians are those who were grafted in over the Eons.(Read Romans ch 11) But then Rev 11:3 separates the 2 prophets from them. So when verse 4 says "these", it's referring to Israel and the Gentile Christians plus the two end times prophets.